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		<title>By: Astrit Kita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrit Kita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason,
You might be right about the fact that what I just wrote is my personal opinion. However each element in HTML is meant to be with a purpose. Lets take for example regular listing and irregular listing. Regular listing can be used when you want to count points in a regular basis (i.e. first, second, third etc), while irregular does not have the numbers attached to it so the line up of the content does not matter.

Now, we also have tabular data. Lets take for example a website that has several products, classified on several packages which also differ in price. It would make sense that the webmaster of that site organizes the products information&#039;s/package in a table (as they are actually a tabular data).

To get back to the fact that tables do their job, I don&#039;t contradict you on that (and doubt anyone would). It is true that most browser do perfectly read the tables.

As far as it regards the loading speed of a website with tables and one with div, I would say make a test, the difference will be in few milliseconds, but its still there.

Thanks for passing by Jason ;) it is always a pleasure to read insightful comments.

P.S. Beautiful portfolio you have there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason,<br />
You might be right about the fact that what I just wrote is my personal opinion. However each element in HTML is meant to be with a purpose. Lets take for example regular listing and irregular listing. Regular listing can be used when you want to count points in a regular basis (i.e. first, second, third etc), while irregular does not have the numbers attached to it so the line up of the content does not matter.</p>
<p>Now, we also have tabular data. Lets take for example a website that has several products, classified on several packages which also differ in price. It would make sense that the webmaster of that site organizes the products information&#8217;s/package in a table (as they are actually a tabular data).</p>
<p>To get back to the fact that tables do their job, I don&#8217;t contradict you on that (and doubt anyone would). It is true that most browser do perfectly read the tables.</p>
<p>As far as it regards the loading speed of a website with tables and one with div, I would say make a test, the difference will be in few milliseconds, but its still there.</p>
<p>Thanks for passing by Jason <img src='http://www.anothernightshift.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  it is always a pleasure to read insightful comments.</p>
<p>P.S. Beautiful portfolio you have there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I can’t stop myself repeating to everyone that tables are meant to be used for displaying tabular data, and not structuring the websites layout.&quot;

That is not an accepted standard, that is your opinion. You may dislike tables immensely but they get the job done. They handle relative positioning better than any DIV or SPAN could ever hope to. Also they have one thing modern CSS DIV layouts just don&#039;t have, compatibility. Both backwards and sideways. That means a wider audience. And in the end it&#039;s all about getting the most people to read your content.

Me personally, I can go DIVs or TABLEs. DIVs really work best with absolute positioned stuff, otherwise it&#039;s a brawl to get it to work right.

Also the talk of how TABLEs load slower just doesn&#039;t bare out in practice.

But hey, that&#039;s just my 2 cents. Personally I think both options have serious deficiencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I can’t stop myself repeating to everyone that tables are meant to be used for displaying tabular data, and not structuring the websites layout.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is not an accepted standard, that is your opinion. You may dislike tables immensely but they get the job done. They handle relative positioning better than any DIV or SPAN could ever hope to. Also they have one thing modern CSS DIV layouts just don&#8217;t have, compatibility. Both backwards and sideways. That means a wider audience. And in the end it&#8217;s all about getting the most people to read your content.</p>
<p>Me personally, I can go DIVs or TABLEs. DIVs really work best with absolute positioned stuff, otherwise it&#8217;s a brawl to get it to work right.</p>
<p>Also the talk of how TABLEs load slower just doesn&#8217;t bare out in practice.</p>
<p>But hey, that&#8217;s just my 2 cents. Personally I think both options have serious deficiencies.</p>
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